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	<title>Comments on: The City of Flagstaff Hates Bicyclists</title>
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		<title>By: The Flagstaff Chronicles @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</title>
		<link>http://azbikelaw.org/blog/the-city-of-flagstaff-hates-bicyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-9220</link>
		<dc:creator>The Flagstaff Chronicles @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this story is FULLY documented here. There was much bad and disappointing behavior in this story &#8212; NONE of it attributable to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this story is FULLY documented here. There was much bad and disappointing behavior in this story &#8212; NONE of it attributable to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sidewalk Cycling in Arizona @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</title>
		<link>http://azbikelaw.org/blog/the-city-of-flagstaff-hates-bicyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-2916</link>
		<dc:creator>Sidewalk Cycling in Arizona @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a few more; Flagstaff is allowed unless posted, basically just like Phoenix (for references, see here, and scroll down to sidewalk). Prescott, the city of Prescott, is banned. Conversely, in Prescott [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a few more; Flagstaff is allowed unless posted, basically just like Phoenix (for references, see here, and scroll down to sidewalk). Prescott, the city of Prescott, is banned. Conversely, in Prescott [...]</p>
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		<title>By: An Historic Citation @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Historic Citation @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is an update to an earlier story involving cyclist Randy Mason and the driver of a Flagstaff city transit bus. Just a few days ago I wrote that I considered it “highly unlikely” the city attoney would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is an update to an earlier story involving cyclist Randy Mason and the driver of a Flagstaff city transit bus. Just a few days ago I wrote that I considered it “highly unlikely” the city attoney would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AZGOHS supports cyclist&#8217;s rights @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</title>
		<link>http://azbikelaw.org/blog/the-city-of-flagstaff-hates-bicyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-2754</link>
		<dc:creator>AZGOHS supports cyclist&#8217;s rights @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of various Law enforcement agencies which result in improper application of the law(e.g. Flagstaff, Flag/Coconino Sheriff, Tempe &amp; Pima Sheriff &#8230;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of various Law enforcement agencies which result in improper application of the law(e.g. Flagstaff, Flag/Coconino Sheriff, Tempe &amp; Pima Sheriff &#8230;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Judge to cyclist: ride in the gutter pan @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judge to cyclist: ride in the gutter pan @ Arizona Bike Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sure to this tidbit for more Flagstaff hijinks.   bikelaw    [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://azbikelaw.org/blog/the-city-of-flagstaff-hates-bicyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.  They investigate themselves whenever they can get away with it.  The only time another agency investigates is if it falls in their jurisdiction.  The local paper did do a follow up on the accident that stated that the driver passed a drug/alcohol screen, was not on a cell phone and never saw the cyclist.  Other than that, the city has pretty much shut down all other information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.  They investigate themselves whenever they can get away with it.  The only time another agency investigates is if it falls in their jurisdiction.  The local paper did do a follow up on the accident that stated that the driver passed a drug/alcohol screen, was not on a cell phone and never saw the cyclist.  Other than that, the city has pretty much shut down all other information.</p>
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		<title>By: azbikelaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>azbikelaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,
&quot;Not surprising given that they have a garbage truck bicycle death claim to defend&quot;. I haven&#039;t heard any outcome of the investigation of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://azbikelaw.org/blog/pre-preliminary-2009-fatality-report/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nov 2009 fatality&lt;/a&gt;. I don&#039;t even know who is conducting the investigation -- it would seem to me that the normal protocol would be to bring in an outside agency run the investigation (e.g. DPS? or sheriff, but *not* city PD).
If anybody knows, please post back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,<br />
&#8220;Not surprising given that they have a garbage truck bicycle death claim to defend&#8221;. I haven&#8217;t heard any outcome of the investigation of the <a href="http://azbikelaw.org/blog/pre-preliminary-2009-fatality-report/" rel="nofollow">Nov 2009 fatality</a>. I don&#8217;t even know who is conducting the investigation &#8212; it would seem to me that the normal protocol would be to bring in an outside agency run the investigation (e.g. DPS? or sheriff, but *not* city PD).<br />
If anybody knows, please post back.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>City of Flagstaff does not operate NAIPTA.  NAIPTA is a government agency funded by City of Flagstaff, Coconino County, Sedona, Cottonwood, etc.  City of Flagstaff is corrupt.  City attorney and risk management often interpret laws to their own liking.  Not surprisiong given that they have a garbage truck bicycle death claim to defend.  Attitude is don&#039;t bring a bicycle to a motor vehicle accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City of Flagstaff does not operate NAIPTA.  NAIPTA is a government agency funded by City of Flagstaff, Coconino County, Sedona, Cottonwood, etc.  City of Flagstaff is corrupt.  City attorney and risk management often interpret laws to their own liking.  Not surprisiong given that they have a garbage truck bicycle death claim to defend.  Attitude is don&#8217;t bring a bicycle to a motor vehicle accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyclists are very often safer when they take the lane and force motorists to either stay behind them or move to another lane for passing.  

However, we have A.R.S. 28-815(A) that requires cyclists to move to a practicable position to the right to allow motorists to pass.  There are exceptions to the rule such as snow and debris that are on the right.  

There is no mandatory requirement to use bike lanes, in fact, under A.R.S. 28-812, cyclists  are required to use the roadway just like the driver of a vehicle, ie, lane changes and left turn bays, etc.

So, if the cyclist is going to ride in a more dangerous position of right sided travel near the edge of the roadway, that same cyclist must depend on drivers of vehicles making safe passes.  

The &quot;ride right&quot; and &quot;3-foot / safe passing&quot; combination is a symbiotic relationship in the law.  One cannot be enforced without the other and one cannot be ignored without the other.  To break up this combination and only enforce one side of it will invariably lead to the injury or death of a cyclist.

A.R.S. 28-735(A) applies all the time, everywhere, in the lateral boundaries of the State of Arizona on any road.  There is no exception.  There is no magic wand that makes it safe to put a mirror over the shoulder of a cyclist when there is a stripe on the roadway.  735(B) enhances the fine from a regular civil traffic fine (about $150.00?) to something more substantial if, in the course of buzzing a cyclist, that cyclist is injured or killed.  735(c) merely sets the fine back to the original civil traffic fine amount if the cyclist has a clear and open and useable bike lane and chooses not to use it.

735(c) is prejudicial because, under 28-812 and 28-751(2), a cyclist making a left turn MUST negotiate across the through lanes and into the left turn bay to make a left turn.  If at the same time, the bike lane on the right is open and passable, then 735(c) says the enhanced penalty doesn&#039;t apply.  This is an oversight on the part of our legislators and should be corrected.  If a cyclist is required to vacate the bike lane and use a left turn lane, then the protections should continue to apply throughout the maneuver.

I am concerned that if the city prosecutors and law enforcement continue to erode the safety of human beings who ride bicycles by coming up with crazy interpretations of our safety laws, then someone is going to get killed.

Every road user has an expectation of safety on the road and law enforcement Constitutionally is charged with the responsibility of maintaining safety. 

Every vehicle driver and motor vehicle operator MUST be instructed to pass safely and under no circumstances, pass with less than 3-feet.

The prosecutor is sworn as an attorney and officer of the court to uphold the laws of the State of Arizona. A prejudicial view that ignores our safety laws and puts human beings in harm&#039;s way (by telling motorists it is OK to buzz cyclists if there is a white line on the road) is unconscionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclists are very often safer when they take the lane and force motorists to either stay behind them or move to another lane for passing.  </p>
<p>However, we have A.R.S. 28-815(A) that requires cyclists to move to a practicable position to the right to allow motorists to pass.  There are exceptions to the rule such as snow and debris that are on the right.  </p>
<p>There is no mandatory requirement to use bike lanes, in fact, under A.R.S. 28-812, cyclists  are required to use the roadway just like the driver of a vehicle, ie, lane changes and left turn bays, etc.</p>
<p>So, if the cyclist is going to ride in a more dangerous position of right sided travel near the edge of the roadway, that same cyclist must depend on drivers of vehicles making safe passes.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;ride right&#8221; and &#8220;3-foot / safe passing&#8221; combination is a symbiotic relationship in the law.  One cannot be enforced without the other and one cannot be ignored without the other.  To break up this combination and only enforce one side of it will invariably lead to the injury or death of a cyclist.</p>
<p>A.R.S. 28-735(A) applies all the time, everywhere, in the lateral boundaries of the State of Arizona on any road.  There is no exception.  There is no magic wand that makes it safe to put a mirror over the shoulder of a cyclist when there is a stripe on the roadway.  735(B) enhances the fine from a regular civil traffic fine (about $150.00?) to something more substantial if, in the course of buzzing a cyclist, that cyclist is injured or killed.  735(c) merely sets the fine back to the original civil traffic fine amount if the cyclist has a clear and open and useable bike lane and chooses not to use it.</p>
<p>735(c) is prejudicial because, under 28-812 and 28-751(2), a cyclist making a left turn MUST negotiate across the through lanes and into the left turn bay to make a left turn.  If at the same time, the bike lane on the right is open and passable, then 735(c) says the enhanced penalty doesn&#8217;t apply.  This is an oversight on the part of our legislators and should be corrected.  If a cyclist is required to vacate the bike lane and use a left turn lane, then the protections should continue to apply throughout the maneuver.</p>
<p>I am concerned that if the city prosecutors and law enforcement continue to erode the safety of human beings who ride bicycles by coming up with crazy interpretations of our safety laws, then someone is going to get killed.</p>
<p>Every road user has an expectation of safety on the road and law enforcement Constitutionally is charged with the responsibility of maintaining safety. </p>
<p>Every vehicle driver and motor vehicle operator MUST be instructed to pass safely and under no circumstances, pass with less than 3-feet.</p>
<p>The prosecutor is sworn as an attorney and officer of the court to uphold the laws of the State of Arizona. A prejudicial view that ignores our safety laws and puts human beings in harm&#8217;s way (by telling motorists it is OK to buzz cyclists if there is a white line on the road) is unconscionable.</p>
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